did michelle obama jump the shark at the oscars? is it too much? >> no. i don't know who's so upset about this. it's 12:00 at night. what else do you think she's going to be doing at 12:00 at night? >> sleeping? >> i think this conversation is absolutely ridiculous. we've got to remember laura bush also was present at the oscars back in 2002. that was the year halle berry and denzel washington both won lead actor and actresses. first time african-americans have done that in oscar history. that's the reason why i remember it. so, no, it hasn't -- she hasn't jumped the shark. it's a silly conversation. >> will? >> let me -- okay, let me just offer you this. it's not worth a red card, that's for sure. it's worth a little warning, a yellow card. it's not about michelle obama's time, whether or not it's better spent somewhere else. isn't it a little uncomfortable when we mix up politics and entertainment in hollywood so blatantly? we accept the fact that it's essentially a voluntary propaganda wing, that it's left leaning, but when it's